What a wonderful post. I think you hit every necessary point perfectly. In my regular column here on sub stack, I write about menopause for men. It’s my mission to educate men on how they can support their partner/wife through their menopause journey, and why it’s important to understand what’s going on. I recall the difficult journey my mom had when she went through menopause when I was just a boy. She was treated with lithium when what she really needed was estrogen. Women often get treated like second class citizens and through my own journey I realize that’s sadly true even in the field of medicine.
I’m in the unique position of having been treated for advanced prostate cancer with androgen deprivation drugs that decimated my testosterone to less than 1 % of what is normal and lived with hot flashes, chills, muscle aches, brain fog, memory loss, anxiety, depression, hair, loss, weight gain, and yes, even loss of libido for well over a year. I’ve lived menopause or as I like to call it “manopause”.
Best wishes on your journey to help women live their best lives.
Hey Bob. I thought of you when reading this and the important messages you share. I so agree it's a brilliantly crafted and thoughtfully expressed post. I'm printing it off and sharing it with my family of adult children and my husband who thankfully is so very supportive. Anita xx
Oh goodness! This explains so much, even as a woman entering menopause, I along with my family would have benefited so much from this and made “our” transition so much more endurable!
25 years ago!!
I remember saying to them, “you think this is bad, you oughta be on tha inside”!
Thank you for sharing all that you are doing to help us all live vibrantly!
Thank you for continuing to shine light on this Dr. Haver. I have no doubt that my menopause transition contributed to my divorce. It's not all my ex-husband's fault. I was just as uninformed as he was and we just didn't talk enough about what was going on and how to deal with it. Hoping that younger women won't have to go through what women have been facing alone for far too long.
Thank you for writing into this space. I think more men need to know that this is an invitation into a new season in their life. Into eldering. Into maturity.
I wrote about our journey last year and had a wide range of responses. Unfortunately, but unsurprisingly, I didn't get many responses from men, just women tagging their men to read it. I honestly think men are missing out on this initiative rites process to be had with their partner.
Thank you for the oxygen you provide to fight the battle for my health- not with my supportive husband- but with the medical doctors who either believe hormones are harmful, or estrogen does nothing except help vaginal dryness. Just last month my doctor all but called me crazy when I said it helped everything in my body that was dry: skin, eyes, joints. Thank goodness for doctors like you that help give me a voice and confidence to be brave for my health.
Fortunately I have a very supportive husband and am thankful for that, my biggest issue is how do I communicate to my male boss what I am going through being that the symptoms are having a negative impact on my productivity and work. Such bad brain fog and lack of concentration is making it very difficult lately and I don’t know what to do or how to express this to my boss 😔.
What is with this damn 10 year cut off??? Have our cells really lost the ability to respond to these hormones? Or go off the road and just turn into cancer cells??
The 10 year "cut off" is simply what the research shows is most beneficial. In essence, that research shows there's more benefit to those of us who start HRT within 10 years of menopause. I'm certain Dr. Mary Clare will be able to explain it further if she happens to see this (although she clarifies it beautifully in her boom The New Menopause)
Yes most beneficial. I have read her latest book last week. There are also more studies coming out about starting its use later since women of my age were screwed with the conclusions from the WHS in the early 90s.
If men’s testicles pooped out in their 40s by golly there would have been a ton of studies done by now.
All of us in the early 70s now need to have good health care (ha) which now will be even harder to come by if the Big Abominable Bill gets passed. Here in Iowa we already have an OB/GYN desert that is getting worse quickly. Who is going to take care of us as our dowagers humps grow and our hips break. The nursing homes can’t find enough help here.
Thank you so much ! This is absolutely perfect. I’ve shared it with my husband and also my 30 year old daughter. She will have the knowledge early on in life and will be better prepared! You have been one of my influencers and a true inspiration guiding me thru this journey ! I have the best primary care provider and I consider myself lucky to have her as she has validated all the things I’ve been learning. I have made it my mission to help as many women possible that cross my path!
Love it!!!! 💕👏 thank you for keeping the science and knowledge about women health alive!! I am with you!! We need more education and Dr should want to learn about HRT. I am not sure how keep an open truthful conversation with my Dr. When she keeps insisting in SSRI. I had brought proves and nothing 😩😢
What a wonderful post. I think you hit every necessary point perfectly. In my regular column here on sub stack, I write about menopause for men. It’s my mission to educate men on how they can support their partner/wife through their menopause journey, and why it’s important to understand what’s going on. I recall the difficult journey my mom had when she went through menopause when I was just a boy. She was treated with lithium when what she really needed was estrogen. Women often get treated like second class citizens and through my own journey I realize that’s sadly true even in the field of medicine.
I’m in the unique position of having been treated for advanced prostate cancer with androgen deprivation drugs that decimated my testosterone to less than 1 % of what is normal and lived with hot flashes, chills, muscle aches, brain fog, memory loss, anxiety, depression, hair, loss, weight gain, and yes, even loss of libido for well over a year. I’ve lived menopause or as I like to call it “manopause”.
Best wishes on your journey to help women live their best lives.
Hey Bob. I thought of you when reading this and the important messages you share. I so agree it's a brilliantly crafted and thoughtfully expressed post. I'm printing it off and sharing it with my family of adult children and my husband who thankfully is so very supportive. Anita xx
Oh goodness! This explains so much, even as a woman entering menopause, I along with my family would have benefited so much from this and made “our” transition so much more endurable!
25 years ago!!
I remember saying to them, “you think this is bad, you oughta be on tha inside”!
Thank you for sharing all that you are doing to help us all live vibrantly!
Thank you for continuing to shine light on this Dr. Haver. I have no doubt that my menopause transition contributed to my divorce. It's not all my ex-husband's fault. I was just as uninformed as he was and we just didn't talk enough about what was going on and how to deal with it. Hoping that younger women won't have to go through what women have been facing alone for far too long.
Thank you for writing into this space. I think more men need to know that this is an invitation into a new season in their life. Into eldering. Into maturity.
I wrote about our journey last year and had a wide range of responses. Unfortunately, but unsurprisingly, I didn't get many responses from men, just women tagging their men to read it. I honestly think men are missing out on this initiative rites process to be had with their partner.
FYI, link:
https://davidtensen.com/beyond-accommodation-a-husbands-reflections-on-perimenopause/
I hear your message. Love your book. Thank you for your work and voice!
Thank you for the oxygen you provide to fight the battle for my health- not with my supportive husband- but with the medical doctors who either believe hormones are harmful, or estrogen does nothing except help vaginal dryness. Just last month my doctor all but called me crazy when I said it helped everything in my body that was dry: skin, eyes, joints. Thank goodness for doctors like you that help give me a voice and confidence to be brave for my health.
Thank you for your beautiful words!
Thank you for this and for number one and number three.
Forwarding this to my husband. Thank you for tying this up into a neat little bow. Enjoy your 4th!
Fortunately I have a very supportive husband and am thankful for that, my biggest issue is how do I communicate to my male boss what I am going through being that the symptoms are having a negative impact on my productivity and work. Such bad brain fog and lack of concentration is making it very difficult lately and I don’t know what to do or how to express this to my boss 😔.
What is with this damn 10 year cut off??? Have our cells really lost the ability to respond to these hormones? Or go off the road and just turn into cancer cells??
The 10 year "cut off" is simply what the research shows is most beneficial. In essence, that research shows there's more benefit to those of us who start HRT within 10 years of menopause. I'm certain Dr. Mary Clare will be able to explain it further if she happens to see this (although she clarifies it beautifully in her boom The New Menopause)
https://www.scientificamerican.com/custom-media/google-cloud/the-health-effects-of-ovaries/?utm_source=facebook&utm_medium=paid&utm_campaign=tfd_healthspan&utm_content=article&fbclid=IwQ0xDSwLTmv9leHRuA2FlbQEwAGFkaWQBqyFVjf7BgQEeRBtkF-2fdtEKzYk3_xwqD7taPMjBNbzAiTWBQdTJ4j73HuBfz2z04huYfy4_aem_1L8K7su-KRHTDIdHn0yngw&utm_id=120219937659930017&utm_term=120219937659940017
Yes most beneficial. I have read her latest book last week. There are also more studies coming out about starting its use later since women of my age were screwed with the conclusions from the WHS in the early 90s.
If men’s testicles pooped out in their 40s by golly there would have been a ton of studies done by now.
All of us in the early 70s now need to have good health care (ha) which now will be even harder to come by if the Big Abominable Bill gets passed. Here in Iowa we already have an OB/GYN desert that is getting worse quickly. Who is going to take care of us as our dowagers humps grow and our hips break. The nursing homes can’t find enough help here.
Amazing post. This is a family issue, not just a woman’s issue.
Thank you so much ! This is absolutely perfect. I’ve shared it with my husband and also my 30 year old daughter. She will have the knowledge early on in life and will be better prepared! You have been one of my influencers and a true inspiration guiding me thru this journey ! I have the best primary care provider and I consider myself lucky to have her as she has validated all the things I’ve been learning. I have made it my mission to help as many women possible that cross my path!
For ever grateful for you and your book !
Alex
Love it!!!! 💕👏 thank you for keeping the science and knowledge about women health alive!! I am with you!! We need more education and Dr should want to learn about HRT. I am not sure how keep an open truthful conversation with my Dr. When she keeps insisting in SSRI. I had brought proves and nothing 😩😢